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- COVER STORIES, Page 37LOS ANGELES RIOTS"We Have to Start Talking to Each Other"
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- WILLIE L. WILLIAMS prepares to assume the mantle as L.A.'s top
- cop
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- By DANIEL S. LEVY and Willie L. Willaims
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- Q. What is the impact of crime on the black community?
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- A. The impact is devastating. The black community has a
- larger proportion of crime within major metropolitan areas than
- any other community. The majority of that crime is black
- offender, black victim.
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- The African-American community wants strong, tough,
- honest, fair policing. There is no African-American community
- in America that does not want to see police there. The people
- want to be treated fairly. They want to be treated honestly and
- with dignity. I think that even in the city of Los Angeles, with
- all its strife, the people say, "Hey, wait a minute. These
- people are robbing and stealing and looting. They are not our
- community; they are not our friends. They are gang members, or
- they are hoodlums, and they are bums, and they belong in jail."
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- Crime also has a long-term effect on the community because
- it drives out the mom-and-pop businesses, the corner stores,
- where a lot of shopping is done. It drives out the source of
- income for the teenagers and the young adults who don't have a
- lot of skills or are just going to school to learn skills. It
- often drives out the source of income for the one or two parents
- who may be living and working at home and working in the area.
- The cost of crime in the African-American community cannot be
- underestimated.
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- Q. You have been Philadelphia's police commissioner for
- the past four years and plan to replace Daryl Gates in Los
- Angeles in July. What would you have done differently to prepare
- for the riots in L.A.?
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- A. Clearly, I cannot discuss the preparations for Los
- Angeles. I was not involved, and I had not had any communication
- out there.
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- But very important in terms of planning are your contacts
- with community people. These people are your best front line of
- communication. I don't care whether it is the poorest, the most
- crime-ridden and downtrodden neighborhood or the most successful
- neighborhood. The contacts can be church leaders, they can be
- businesspeople or a neighbor who is out there every day washing
- off the steps and sidewalk. Part of a commander's job is to be
- able to pick up the phone at 3 o'clock in the morning and say,
- "Bob, Mary, I need you out here," and know that they will come.
- Or if these community leaders need the police commander, they
- can call him and say, "Chief, we need you here." That is a
- relationship that gets built up over time. You can't wait until
- the fires are burning to decide, "I got to do this."
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- Q. It seems that a siege mentality exists between the
- police and some communities.
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- A. When you are dealing with a riot, a police officer's
- role really gets reduced to command, control and contain. Over
- the course of a career, a police officer gets involved in
- command and control maybe 10% of the time. The rest of the time
- you are responding to calls for service, whether you are
- dealing with disturbances, abandoned vehicles, sanitation
- violations or traffic control.
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- A lot of young men and women come into police work
- thinking that what they see on Miami Vice is what they are going
- to be doing. When it is not, a level of frustration sets in, a
- level of boredom, a level of miscommunication.
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- Q. I understand that you used the Rodney King video as a
- teaching tool. How did you use it, and what were you hoping to
- accomplish?
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- A. We started using it the second week after it occurred.
- We used it to point out how an incident, a traffic violation,
- led to the events that we saw on television. The man had been
- stopped. We would have given him a ticket for speeding or
- reckless driving. We ask, "What are the officers doing that they
- shouldn't be doing? Are there other alternatives?"
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- Q. Do you have any plans for L.A.?
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- A. Well, I want to examine training. The officers have
- said they need training in many areas. The Christopher
- Commission [named for a panel that called for the creation of
- a new police commission with increased authority to control a
- discipline-lax organization with racist tendencies] clearly
- indicates that there needs to be a real examination of internal
- affairs and the process of making complaints against police.
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- We need to examine the relationship between the department
- and the community. We have to start talking to each other, not
- talking at each other.
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- Q. You have to rebuild the bridges.
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- A. I don't know if there are any bridges left standing. It
- is going to be a very, very slow process. We also have got to
- examine the resources available to the department. The city is
- facing a $150 million deficit. There was an initial budget
- request that would have reduced the department by 700 people by
- this time next year. I certainly hope that doesn't occur. If
- the demands for service and the demands for change go up -- and
- they are clearly going to go up -- and your resources to
- deliver those services go down, there is going to be further
- distrust and disbelief in the community.
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- Q. Are you nervous?
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- A. No, not nervous. But I understand that there is going
- to be a very short break-in period. There will probably be
- higher expectations than I will be able to deliver in all
- quarters at all times. But I am still looking forward to the
- job. In one sense, there will be a greater level of initial
- support for me.
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- I just hope the disturbances of this past week subside
- very quickly. I hope the community realizes what has occurred,
- and we have learned a lesson from that, and we never have to
- look back and mention Watts, and then mention Rodney King and
- the riots after Rodney King, and worry about what will spark
- the next one.
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